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rco8786 2 hours ago [-]
> Measured, not vibes
Sort of ironic considering that there are a LOT of vibe tells in the copy throughout this page. It's a neat looking project, it's a shame that every other sentence has Claude's fingerprints all over it.
mcintyre1994 2 hours ago [-]
Which is ironic because the author works at OpenAI!
christophilus 1 hours ago [-]
Yeah. I thought it sounded like OpenAI more than Claude, though maybe they’ve converged. It’s been a while since I used Claude.
trueno 1 hours ago [-]
claudes still claude. still as load-bearing as ever. the ladies have no idea how absolutely right i am every day
Guillaume86 13 minutes ago [-]
Just took a glance so I may be completely wrong, fell free to ignore, but if I understand correctly, tsrx is just syntactic sugar for normal tsx code and does not enable anything new?
If this is the case: I think introducing tsrx as part of Octane muddies the water a bit and makes me more hesitant to try (even if it is optional).
The idea to make tsx files more readable may be interesting but in that case it should go into its own separate project, and maybe just put a lang toggle in Octane docs and a page about tsrx compat, that way if people are intrigued by the new syntax they can just look it up but the docs stay focused.
aatd86 4 hours ago [-]
I recognize this comparison style. Definitely generated by Claude. haha
ksec 34 minutes ago [-]
I think the Github link [1] does a much better job at explaining what it is.
Does it have any overlaps with React Compiler — like the auto-memoization that they have?
Also, is there any read on the downsides / shortcomings / caveats of Octane vs. vanilla React?
torment-nexus 44 minutes ago [-]
This is an interesting problem. A similar approach that worked for us was to only load the tools the agent actually needs for each task.
xpl 3 hours ago [-]
The model is a bit different from React (no deps, hooks can be under ifs) — do coding agents recognize it or they get confused when they see that code?
But it doesn't have the repeating yourself/over-emphasising that you sometimes see in LLM instructions when someone is trying to fight the model's default assumptions
mapcars 4 hours ago [-]
It seems like an attempt to port Svelte's features to React-like api?
adithyassekhar 4 hours ago [-]
It took a while to render when I clicked the Differences from React button on an iphone 17.
christophilus 3 hours ago [-]
Same. I think it’s just a link, and its content took a while to load. Looks like it’s the docs site vs the marketing page.
Tajnymag 4 hours ago [-]
I'm surprised how good Vue Vapor mode is from the performance comparison table.
purerandomness 4 hours ago [-]
Funny how Vue Vapor 3.6 beta and Ripple 0.3 show the exact same performance (1.0) as Octane, but their bars are a tiny bit longer so the Octane team can pretend to have a justification to put their implementation on top.
Classic statistics dark pattern.
trueadm 4 hours ago [-]
We just run a script that runs the benchmarks and updates the chart. It’s rounds numbers too. We’ve been as honest as possible in all the benchmarks - there’s no point in lying about a metric.
epolanski 3 hours ago [-]
Interested in experimenting with Octane, wish that docs emphasized more the SSR aspect of it, because I'm looking for a Ruby/Phoenix/Php alternative in TypeScript land, and one with React-like apis would be cool.
trueadm 3 hours ago [-]
It has all the same SSR APIs as React. The Octane website is rendered with Octane and the source is in the GitHub repository if you’re interested to see how it works
atraac 3 hours ago [-]
Weren't there RedwoodJs, BlitzJs and few others that did that already?
trueno 1 hours ago [-]
theres gonna be a lot more at this rate. everyones tribalistic preferences about how web frameworks should be made... is never going to get solved. now everyone can just spend a week of their claude max plan making whatever framework they want. ive done it like twice now in the past year just for shits and giggles, it is fun but i wont pretend like i know where any of this is going, i think a hybrid of ssr and a blend of "the client should do some work" is probably the prevailing strats that will scale. something like aggrid is a very performant js datatable so i personally am not inclined to try and reinvent that from the backend, rather a backend has full coverage over its api surface but largely just sets/configures/sends data to but lets aggrid do what aggrid does. component models and diffing changes and all of that though and sending lil dom updates... shouldve never been purely on the front end to begin with. front end runtimes are about to get way smaller.
my favorite part of using whatever this weird ssr hybrid landscape ive been in is just not using graphql lol. i can just rawdog sql now for most things like the lords of data intended. its fantastic
epolanski 2 hours ago [-]
Didn't like the apis nor both being built on top of react crap.
Sort of ironic considering that there are a LOT of vibe tells in the copy throughout this page. It's a neat looking project, it's a shame that every other sentence has Claude's fingerprints all over it.
If this is the case: I think introducing tsrx as part of Octane muddies the water a bit and makes me more hesitant to try (even if it is optional).
The idea to make tsx files more readable may be interesting but in that case it should go into its own separate project, and maybe just put a lang toggle in Octane docs and a page about tsrx compat, that way if people are intrigued by the new syntax they can just look it up but the docs stay focused.
[1] https://github.com/octanejs/octane
Also, is there any read on the downsides / shortcomings / caveats of Octane vs. vanilla React?
But it doesn't have the repeating yourself/over-emphasising that you sometimes see in LLM instructions when someone is trying to fight the model's default assumptions
Classic statistics dark pattern.
my favorite part of using whatever this weird ssr hybrid landscape ive been in is just not using graphql lol. i can just rawdog sql now for most things like the lords of data intended. its fantastic